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Automatkanon ADEN betecknades i Flygvapnet 30 mm akan m/55, och satt i bl.a J 32B, J 34 och J 35.

ADEN uppges vara en förkortning för
Armament Development Establishment Enfield
eller
Armament Development Establishment Enfield

Men även Royal Small Arms Factory verkar vara inblandad i utveckling eller tillverkning.

Men jag får inte ihop det riktigt. Hur hörde Royal Small Arms Factory och Armament Development Establishment Enfield ihop?
Utvecklades den vid Armament Development Establishment Enfield och sedan tillverkades vid Royal Small Arms Factory?
Eller tvärtom?

Samt, licenstillverkades den någonsin i Sverige? Av FFV? Eller möjligtvis av Bofors?

Swedish FFV Aden uppges i
http://en.wikivisual.com/index.php/ADEN_cannon

Aircraft using the ADEN 30 as in-built armament have included the English Electric Lightning, Folland Gnat (and HAL Ajeet), Hawker Hunter, Gloster Javelin, Saab Lansen, Saab Draken, Supermarine Scimitar, and Australian versions of the F-86 Sabre. Several podded versions exist, including the installations scabbed below the fuselage of British Hawker-Siddeley Harrier (and USMC AV-8A/Cs) and Sea Harriers and the Swedish FFV Aden, which is used (among others) on the BAe Hawk.

The FFV Aden contains the weapon and 150 rounds of ammunition, is 151.57 in (3.85 m) long, and weighs 802.5 lb (364 kg) fully loaded.
The ADEN is very similar to the French DEFA cannon, and the two weapons use the same range of 30 mm ammunition.

Bengt

Vad gick dessa pjäser till för öde efter flygplanen skrotats?

Tänker på J29 akan som hamnade i Pbv302 och lever vidare i våra sisu vagnar.

Mvh
/N

Swedish FFV Aden uppges i
http://en.wikivisual.com/index.php/ADEN_cannon

Aircraft using the ADEN 30 as in-built armament have included the English Electric Lightning, Folland Gnat (and HAL Ajeet), Hawker Hunter, Gloster Javelin, Saab Lansen, Saab Draken, Supermarine Scimitar, and Australian versions of the F-86 Sabre. Several podded versions exist, including the installations scabbed below the fuselage of British Hawker-Siddeley Harrier (and USMC AV-8A/Cs) and Sea Harriers and the Swedish FFV Aden, which is used (among others) on the BAe Hawk.

The FFV Aden contains the weapon and 150 rounds of ammunition, is 151.57 in (3.85 m) long, and weighs 802.5 lb (364 kg) fully loaded.
The ADEN is very similar to the French DEFA cannon, and the two weapons use the same range of 30 mm ammunition.

Bengt

Så här ser en typ av ammunition till ADEN-kanonen ut. Präktig sak!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2144/255 ... 8a15_o.jpg

Kenneth

Niklas Börjesson skrev:Vad gick dessa pjäser till för öde efter flygplanen skrotats?

Det var tänkt att de skulle vara halvfasta (elevation men ingen sidriktning) framåt på stridsbåtar. Men jag vet inte om det blev nåt av det.

Men hur hörde Royal Small Arms Factory och Armament Development Establishment Enfield ihop?
Utvecklades den vid Armament Development Establishment Enfield och sedan tillverkades vid Royal Small Arms Factory?
Eller tvärtom?

Med FFV Aden, som Bengt citerade om, avses nog 30 mm akankapsel, angivna data överensstämmer. I denna satt ju en 30 mm akan m/55.

kanske något på ::

http://www.armedforces-int.com/companie ... imited.asp

AEI had traded for more than 40 years and was Design Authority (DA) and OEM for the famous Aden 30 mm Gun, Aden 25 mm Gun and was well known as a major military aircraft support company. AEI was established in 1961 by Norman Angel, and enjoyed the privilege of the directorship of Group Captain Sir Douglas Bader and Air Vice Marshall Johnny Johnson.

• Air Defence Products: Aden 30mm Cannon »
AEI Systems is the UK design authority for the Aden 30mm Cannon and offers its customers full logistic, technical and spares support.
http://www.armedforces-int.com/categori ... cannon.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Small_Arms_Factory

>>Almost all the weapons in which the Royal Small Arms Factory had a hand in design or production carry either the word Enfield or the letters EN in their name;>>
Stickspår?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armament_R ... ablishment Indien baserad!

http://www.armedforces-int.com/categori ... cannon.asp

Hoppas något är till nytta, ”hopkopplingen” återstår
Bengt

eller:

http://www.rsaf-aa.co.uk/rsaf/rsaf.html
The Royal Small Arms Factory gave the name "Enfield" to the world of small arms. It was also the home of the Apprentices who trained there to become the skilled craftsmen and production engineers, who created some of the world's finest infantry weapons. The famous "-EN" in the names of such weapons as the BREN, STEN, ARWEN, ADEN and RARDEN comes from the name ENFIELD.

http://www.enfield.gov.uk/448/Industry% ... istory.htm
Royal Small Arms Factory
In 1804 a government-owned factory for making musket barrels was set up at Lewisham. In 1812 land was acquired at Enfield Lock for an enlarged factory. (The new site had the advantages of water power available to drive machinery and the Lee Navigation for the transportation of raw materials and the finished weapons). The new factory was completed too late to affect the outcome of the Napoleonic War. In 1816 the barrel branch moved from Lewisham to Enfield. By 1818 the reduction in demand for small arms meant that there were just thirty men employed at the Enfield factory. Later in 1818 the lock and finishing branches were transferred to Enfield, enabling the Lewisham site to be dispensed with. A sword making branch was set up in 1823. The factory narrowly fought off a threat of closure in 1831. The Crimean War of 1854/5 resulted in a big increase in demand for both small arms and ammunition. In 1857 the factory was completely reorganised on mass production lines. The factory continued in operation, with periods of great activity during the Boer War and the two World Wars. In 1987 the Royal Ordnance Factories (including Enfield Lock) were sold to British Aerospace. The Enfield Lock plant was closed almost immediately and small arms manufacture was moved to Nottingham.


http://www.eivral.com/history.htm
http://www.rsaf-aa.co.uk/rsaf/heritage/ ... s_list.pdf

The J35A was armed with twin 30 millimeter British Aden revolver-type cannon, with one cannon in each inner wing section, outboard of the engine intake. There were 90 rounds per gun.

Inget om ev. koppling än dock

Bengt

samt:

http://www.hawkinformation.com/uploads/ ... /body.html
ADEN. The name for the British copy of the MG213C is actually an
acronym for the British design authority, Armament Development Enfield. The Royal Armament Research and Development Establishment at Fort Halstead also had a major role in the ADEN development program. The first British Ministry of Defence order for the ADEN was to arm the Swift, Supermarine’s first swept-wing turbojet aircraft; Royal Ordnance (now RO Defence) was the ADEN prime contractor. Both RO Defence and Supermarine are now components of BAE Systems.
The first version of the Swift could accommodate only two cannon. Supermarine attempted to extend the inboard leading edge of the wing, to carry ammunition for an additional two cannon. However, this installation caused an unacceptable and dangerous pitch up of the aircraft when turning at high speed; Supermarine subsequently terminated the Swift-ADEN program.
Despite this setback, the ADEN has seen service with a wide range of British tactical aircraft – from the diminutive Folland Gnat through the first and only British-designed supersonic fighter, the Lightning. The ADEN experienced its largest application in the highly-successful Hawker Hunter. The following is a list of aircraft types mounting the ADEN, along with the number of ADEN cannon per airframe:

o bla:
1950 Royal Ordnance develops first major ADEN application for the Hawker Hunter
Later 1950s RO integrates ADEN with various other aircraft, including Lightning
Through 1970s ADEN cannon integration continues
Late 1975 ADEN 25 development begins

Bengt

Jag det var inte helt självklart det här.
Men efter att ha läst på en hel del på nätet lutar det åt att 30 mm ADEN "utvecklades" vid Armament Development Establishment Enfield och själva tillverkningen skedde vid Royal Small Arms Factory.

Efter WW2 splittrades Mausers konstruktörsgrupp. Werner Jungmann, som ingick i denna, flyttade till Storbritanien där han deltog i utvecklingen av ADEN, som i princip innebar att den tyska automatkanonen Mauser 213C kopierades och anpassades till engelska mått.